Hey everyone, I just nabbed a loaded pre-registered Vivaro E 75kwh LWB for 20k inc vat - maybe Vauxhall have told their dealers to shift these before the fines start - the van seems to have been sitting for 10 months since built. They are supposed to be £52k

Drove it back 150 miles and the range on the motorway at 64mph was 170miles so it'll easily be 200+ around town. I know a lot of people are waiting until December to try to get insane deals, but maybe it's better to strike now... I highly recommend you try to get one with the heated seat pack - it's really good. As you can see, it's a little too long for normal parking spaces!

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Speaking of those heated seats - this van has a bizarre spec... dealer listed it as a base model (V5 confirms), but it's absolutely loaded with options, some of which are not even listed as options for the van model, only the people carrier...

No idea what the story is with it, parts shortage maybe?

Anyhow, I got this by setting up a search on autotrader for vans up to 1 year old with under 500 miles on them. Ignore model of van and look at photos to establish spec - if you see heated seats it's going to be loaded no matter what they say. Also look at the buttons around the touch screen - if you see the satnav button is there (all 6 buttons will have an icon on them) then you'll also have the pro-nav which is actually excellent as it is also on the driver screen behind the wheel and adds tons of features like auto cruise speed adjust, sign recognition, speed camera warning etc.

If the back is ply lined it means it has the expensive ply option which also has load hooks along the floor.

Ignore buttons on the steering wheel - some vans have them all on a stalk behind the wheel instead.

Look at the cruise control stalk - if it has a 'mem' button that's an extra option which allows you to control the cruise from the touch screen, set and save speeds etc. useful for motorway, just save 60mph as an icon, and you can just touch it and the van will take over.

Ignore the reverse camera option, it's rubbish, a £100 front/rear mirror dash cam from ebay is better - plus records all the time - actually caught an incident on my first journey with it and police involved etc. (I/van was fine) Van comes with parking sensors as standard anyway.

Auto folding heated mirrors are very nice too. Yet to establish if it also might have the 11kw charger option, as I don't have a build sheet (or 3 phase).

Does anyone know how I might be able to get the build sheet? So happy with this bargain.

Your excitment comes across in your excellent post, you obviously put a lot of work into your purchase and have reaped the rewards, well done for sharing so others can benefit from your experience.

 

Congratulations - you've obviously put a lot of time and effort into your research, now you get to reap the rewards !

 

They are not the only one. A friend who own and run a small sandwich, soup, bake potato premises just bought prereg BYD ETP3 van with 12 miles on the clock with 45kWh battery for £9995 all in. New, unregistered are listed as £30K, however a lot of places have them for £17995 +VAT new and £12995 +VAT prereg so he saved almost £8000 quid from what is available and £20K from RRP

 

I just upgraded ,y e-nv200 from a 24kwh to a used 40kwh battery pack. My e-nv200 does roughly 3.5m/kwh in winter and close to 4m/kwh in summer.

Was talking to a BT engineer last week who had a vivaro, he was t=struggling to get 2.6m/kwh out of his.
That did suprise me alot.

Anthony.

 

We have a member here @Rbrian he is driving one of them. He will be the best person to tell us what is his overal. His van is fully loaded every day.

 

I have a saved search on these myself at the moment on Autotrader. Definitely lots of low cost bargains with the Vivaro-e. Personally I'm looking for a van to convert to a camper. And the 75 kWh battery version looks like just the job.

Glad you've found a van you like! I hope it serves you well.

 

Well done you... I don't feel sorry for the manufacturers just why can't they sell them closer to 20k normally? Ok they have a big battery but they're only a metal box on wheels!

 

Hmmm, might have to consider selling up my 50-90 mile electric Transporter

 

Having the big battery after coming from an ENV200 is like night to day. It's like having a 'normal' van. I've just done a long run today (140miles) and it was absolutely fine. No range anxiety. I know they just announced their new one with the 110kwh battery (300+ mile range apparently) but I don't see any personal need for that kind of range.

 

The WLTP range is one thing, the actual range you get is another thing entirely. My 50kWh Vivaro has a 143 mile WLTP range, but managed barely 70 miles in reality. The furthest I’ve ever gone was 80 miles, from 100% to 10%. And when cold, it went from 100% to 3% having covered a mere 67 miles. That’s not even half the WLTP range! Of course, your mileage may vary - my usage is probably the most inefficient way. From cold to a dual carriageway within a mile, heating on at full power, then sitting still for an hour or three so it cools right down, then start again with the heater on full. It’s fully laden all the time, with ladders on the roof ruining the aerodynamics. Despite that, it’s fine for my use as I rarely do more than 50 miles in a day.

 

I guess it helps that where I live we don't have many motorways, average speed cameras kept me to 50 or 60mph yesterday. (I'm unsure if these vans need to keep 10mph below...) apparently if you get caught speeding they will punish you based on that rule... (caught at 80, and they'll do you for being 20mph over the limit, not 10?).

I am careful with the heating, the heated driver's seat helps with that a lot, and I know I'll lose about 10% range over the next year as the battery settles.

But around town and country it seems to have superb range. You'd have to really hammer it on the motorway with the heater on full blast to get under 130miles. Luckily, I won't often be carrying anything heavy.

If I ever do maybe that 110kwh version will become more appealing 😅

 

(I'm unsure if these vans need to keep 10mph below...)

A Van has a speed limit of 50mph on single carriageways, 60 on dual carriageways and 70 on motorways.

So yeah, if your doing 80 on a dual carriageway, your 20 over the limit in a van.

If however the dual carriageway has its limit reduced to 60 for whatever reason, you can do 60.

 

I haven’t looked at small vans recently, but when I looked a decade ago all the small vans - Berlingo, Kangoo, Combo etc were 1995kg, only the Transit Connect was 2100kg.

My e-NV200 "combi" with back seats is legally a car, while the version with identical outer shape, maximum weight when loaded, motor, battery, etc, is a van and has to observe the lower speed limits. Thoughts about law and donkey equivalence come to mind. (Maximum gross vehicle weight 2250 kg, kerb weight about 1600.)

There aren’t very many (any?) car based vans anymore...

As far as I know, there are none left apart from a few classics/old bangers. There were once a few little vans which were hatchbacks or estate cars without back seats or windows.

 

I just saw on reddit someone got caught speeding, and they did him for 20mph over at 80mph and there was a long post on it, apparently some camera's do identify vans now, and all popup speed checks follow that rule. I need to read up on it, as the auto adjust cruise control follows the car limits.

 

Hey everyone, I just nabbed a loaded pre-registered Vivaro E 75kwh LWB for 20k inc vat - maybe Vauxhall have told their dealers to shift these before the fines start - the van seems to have been sitting for 10 months since built. They are supposed to be £52k

Drove it back 150 miles and the range on the motorway at 64mph was 170miles so it'll easily be 200+ around town. I know a lot of people are waiting until December to try to get insane deals, but maybe it's better to strike now... I highly recommend you try to get one with the heated seat pack - it's really good. As you can see, it's a little too long for normal parking spaces!

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Speaking of those heated seats - this van has a bizarre spec... dealer listed it as a base model (V5 confirms), but it's absolutely loaded with options, some of which are not even listed as options for the van model, only the people carrier...

No idea what the story is with it, parts shortage maybe?

Anyhow, I got this by setting up a search on autotrader for vans up to 1 year old with under 500 miles on them. Ignore model of van and look at photos to establish spec - if you see heated seats it's going to be loaded no matter what they say. Also look at the buttons around the touch screen - if you see the satnav button is there (all 6 buttons will have an icon on them) then you'll also have the pro-nav which is actually excellent as it is also on the driver screen behind the wheel and adds tons of features like auto cruise speed adjust, sign recognition, speed camera warning etc.

If the back is ply lined it means it has the expensive ply option which also has load hooks along the floor.

Ignore buttons on the steering wheel - some vans have them all on a stalk behind the wheel instead.

Look at the cruise control stalk - if it has a 'mem' button that's an extra option which allows you to control the cruise from the touch screen, set and save speeds etc. useful for motorway, just save 60mph as an icon, and you can just touch it and the van will take over.

Ignore the reverse camera option, it's rubbish, a £100 front/rear mirror dash cam from ebay is better - plus records all the time - actually caught an incident on my first journey with it and police involved etc. (I/van was fine) Van comes with parking sensors as standard anyway.

Auto folding heated mirrors are very nice too. Yet to establish if it also might have the 11kw charger option, as I don't have a build sheet (or 3 phase).

Does anyone know how I might be able to get the build sheet? So happy with this bargain.

Electric vans do seem to be becoming much cheaper - I highlighted elsewhere that you can now get a nearly new esprinter with the massive 113kwh battery for £37,500 plus VAT, even the ICE version is north of £32,000 plus VAT

The 75kwh PSA medium van seems quite a good campervan base for most, especially as there is a lot of “kits” out there like poptop’s etc for the ICE version which will fit

 

On my way home last night I found a mysterious unmarked button (not in the manual) and the van apparently has chat GPT built in to it 😵‍💫 I highly suspect this was supposed to be the E-life people carrier and not a van and for some reason was switched to a van at the last minute. I apparently have a 3 month trial of this feature. Maybe the manual I was given with the van is just the wrong manual.

 

Wow, that's ... bizarre. And strikes me as utterly pointless.

 

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Huh, hadn’t realised this had become a thing

 

I can't been find any information about a 110kwh Vivaro-e (or similar). Have I missed something?

 

Only the larger vans - Movano, Ducato, etc have a 110kWh option.

 

Only the larger vans - Movano, Ducato, etc have a 110kWh option.

I meant to clarify that my question was based on this:

I know they just announced their new one with the 110kwh battery (300+ mile range apparently) but I don't see any personal need for that kind of range.

I can't find any announcement

 

I meant to clarify that my question was based on this:

I can't find any announcement

I dont think the vivaro is getting getting the 110kwh, that the movano/Ducato etc

Fiat E-Ducato

The Fiat E-Ducato is the largest electric van in the range but also the biggest in the segment, does it excel in other areas too?

vanreviewer.co.uk

the vivaro is sticking with the 75kwh but has efficiency benefits so a longer range

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Vauxhall Combo Life Electric and Vivaro Life Electric updated with new design and increased range, new motors and battery options Combo Life Electric now capable of up to 205 miles (WLTP) – up 18 per cent Vivaro Life Electric now capable of up to 217 miles (WLTP) – up 62 per cent, thanks to...

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Perhaps Stellantis management used the chat GPT button to ask where they could make job cuts…..

 

My curent base van for camper feelings.

Medium van the Stellantis 75kWh is still a solid option. I think the Maxus eDeliver7 with the 88kWh pack will give a better range and I think has better tech. The issue with it is that there want be readiliy avalible bits for doing a camper. New Ford Custom and LWB Buzz if it apears may be interesting options soon.

Larger vans the Fiat Ducato and identicle Nissan Interstar with 110kWh look solid. You can get these on 3.5t but the payload is very limited. They are avalible as 4.0t options but I belive there are implication license and speed limit wise with these. The eSprinter also has the 113kWh but only the heavy 7.12m long version so not something I would ever look at. The fact it's LFP though is a posative. The Renault Master e-tech is the interesting new additions if it realy has the claimed range. I would be really interested in a back to back range comparison between the new Ducato and the new Master.

 

The Renault Master e-tech is the interesting new additions if it realy has the claimed range. I would be really interested in a back to back range comparison between the new Ducato and the new Master.

Yeah same, the master might be a game changer for large campers if the efficiency is as good as some reviewers suggest.

My understanding is the rules around vans above 3.5t is now very complicated - the gov has proactively changed the rules so the “normal” rules of needing to do an additional test to drive a 4.25t isn’t required for an EV, but apparently you still need a tachometer over 3.5t so it’s an added headache for the larger EV vans

 

My brother just got an ID Buzz Commerce from stable vehicle contracts. The lease is ridiculously cheap and costs him about what he used to pay in diesel for the transporter.
the new van is terrific and was doing over 4 miles per kWh in the warmer weather.

 

My brother just got an ID Buzz Commerce from stable vehicle contracts. The lease is ridiculously cheap and costs him about what he used to pay in diesel for the transporter.
the new van is terrific and was doing over 4 miles per kWh in the warmer weather.

id love one of those

 

Another lwb 2024 one has appeared, not quite as good as mine, has 4k on it and does not have nav option but still a crazy bargain, prob ex demo:

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Another lwb 2024 one has appeared, not quite as good as mine, has 4k on it and does not have nav option but still a crazy bargain, prob ex demo:

£20,400 - Auto Trader Vans - New and Used Vans For Sale

Great price for a new L2, i Had a Quick Look and could only see the cheapest L2 being a 2021 with 18,000 miles for £15k plus VAT, defo worrh the extra couple of grand for a car 3 years younger

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Yes, you'll get over 2 years of full Vauxhall warranty + they'll likely include the first service for free. Total bargain.

Says it has the heated seats too!

 

There is a slightly updated version due I belive so I assume any demonstrators will be being replaced with the new ones and old stock cleared out. Still I which the prices were like this when I got mine 20 months back.

 

It’ll be interesting to see a comparison between the “old” and “new” versions of these vans - the press release seems to suggest an improvement in efficiency which, from what several owners say, would be a welxome improvement

Whether that’s worth waiting and paying full price for rather than picking up one of these bargains is another matter - personally I wouldn’t think so! It’s a shame it’s just too small for our needs for a camper 😞

 

I expect the 110kwh bigger van will be at bargain prices in 18 months or so, that thing is huge! The 0-60 on it must be hilarious, I might be tempted by one at the end of my full warranty in about 2 years.

It would make a good camper, with a superb range too. I assume as it's an EV it won't need a lorry licence?

 

I expect the 110kwh bigger van will be at bargain prices in 18 months or so, that thing is huge! The 0-60 on it must be hilarious, I might be tempted by one at the end of my full warranty in about 2 years.

I think the new 110kwh Ducato will get 270bhp as standard which matches the more powerful etransit out at the moment

They’re not cheap, but hopefully like all EV vans so far they’ll depreciate pretty quick - the esprinter for example just updated to a 7m long 113kwh beast and new it starts at £72,000+VAT but on autotrader there’s already a nearly new demo one for £37,000+VAT

It would make a good camper, with a superb range too. I assume as it's an EV it won't need a lorry licence?

EV vans have a bit of an advantage over ICE as the requirement to do an additional test to drive a 4.25 tonne is dropped for EV’s

Updated: Driver training dropped for 4.25 tonne electric van licensing

A series of changes have been announced for the operation of heavier zero-emission vans following a Government consultation.

www.fleetnews.co.uk

It’s still a bit confused regulation wise however and hopefully more clarification is coming but it’s good as it means lots of potential for campers, I’m hoping to pick up an EV large van for our next campervan however the current range on most is just a little too short for comfort right now

 

I can't find may youtube reviews of these 110k vans, seems somewhat odd, unless I'm just searching for the wrong thing?