Have a look over at the Ioniq forums. There's lots of info on there, and a lot of 12V battery issues it would seem!

 

Do you have a link to a good UK Ioniq forum?

 

https://www.ioniqforum.com/

 

Interested to learn of any experiences with Ioniq 5s from that period, especially negative / points to watch out for.

Might be worth investigating the security features and vulnerability to theft.

£50,000 electric vehicle 'gone in 5 secs' as owner watches on holiday

Concerns have been raised at a serious flaw in the Hyundai Ioniq5's security after series of thefts highlighted

www.mylondon.news

 

If you have followed my and others threads, make sure it has had the ICCU changed. This is a unique to Kia/Hyundai e-GMP cars with 800v rapid charge capability. The circuit fails and then you can’t charge. Blame new technology etc. Upgraded part now. Massive issue with parts shortages as affected numerous cars worldwide at the same time. but I think supplies are better now. I waited 3 months with my car at the dealership. And Hyundai were terrible to deal with. To be fair, parts shortages affect so many car manufacturers at present and over the past 2-3 years. Car been back for a while now and all is forgotten, as it is a lovely car to drive.

Efficiency. Nothing to write home about. The Kona is much more efficient. Blame the excessive weight gain. (And not the bluff front end). It is about 300+kg heavier than the Kona (or e-Niro). But is still an easy all weather 200 mile+ car and plenty more in the summer.

No rear wiper. that is annoying! Especially over the winter months. You can use the excellent rear camera but you shouldn’t need to.

Apart from that it is well built and otherwise reliable. Servicing can be expensive especially the 4 th year service which requires a coolant change. But of a rip,off really.

 

Thanks folks. Very useful 👍🏻

 

You’ll be getting a lot of car for 30k. Ultimate spec is the one to aim for, as it has the heat pump and relaxation seats. If not ultimate, the eco pack has the heat pump which does make a difference to range.

 

I didn't think the Ultimate had the heat pump in the UK unless you bought the eco pack? Same with the battery heater. In 21/22 cars I think you either need the Project 45 or the Ultimate with eco pack added (for a Premium it's not even an option). Both are quite rare on the used market unfortunately.

 

Changes afoot. The iPace and ID5 will shortly be returned to the employer and we’ll be on the lookout for a single replacement, will be bought by us, not a salary sacrifice car. Max budget is 30k.

Ioniq 5 73kWh Ultimate might fit the bill, been looking at some used examples at about £28-30k from the Approved used Hyundai dealer market. Cars will be late 21 or early 22 (71 plate or thereabouts). I want the comfort of the warranty so happy to pay a bit more for that.

Interested to learn of any experiences with Ioniq 5s from that period, especially negative / points to watch out for.

I've got an MY22.5 Ioniq 5 ultimate with tech and eco packs - it's a great car but a bit flawed in terms of software (quite outdated, only two seemingly minor updates per year), and also it's a pretty big car - not easy to fit down some of the tighter country lanes over here nor some parking spaces.
Also the winter range even with the eco pack is rather poor. Probably between 150-180 miles during the coldest days, isn't helped by the 20" wheels on the ultimate. Regarding the ultimate, the Bose sound system is rather disappointing - but there are ways other have improved it either with a DSP or replacing the speakers and sub.

All that said, currently mine's a lease car and I wish I could keep it.

Rear wiper isn't that much of a issue once you get used to it - I've tried several rain repellent sprays but sadly they don't really seem to work.

As others have said, Hyundai aren't great to deal with - but thankfully the service interval is quite far between, and things have been pretty reliable so far.
My dealership visits have been for TSBs (twice), and a few quality control issues (rattly HUD - replaced under warranty), and peeling black vinyl trim around the windows on the doors (never managed to get this sorted).

 

Ioniq5 is a good replacement for the I-pace. We had an I-pace on subscription via JLR Pivotal for 2.5years and swapped over to Hyundai Mocean for an Ioniq 5 Ultimate AWD and it’s almost as good. Not a sports car like the Jag, but it charges twice as fast, has a smaller battery and is more efficient with better range than the Jag and a comfortable cruiser.
No rear wiper but that’s the same issue with the I-pace, just have to clean it anytime you stop.
Like other cars there are issues, so make sure it’s had all updates hard/soft done.

 

@sha726966 your winter range looks terrible if that’s the 73kWh battery?

 

Yeah it's not great tbh, I've been quite disappointed. It's the 73kWh battery with the 20" wheels and I drive as efficiently as I can (I'm a bit of a nerd with mi/kWh stats and drive in eco mode most of the time).

One thing to mention though, this is charging between 80-100% but mainly 80% max as that's the recommendation, so I count that as the range I'm getting.
In the winter it's seeming to average around 3mi/kWh, the summer is more like 3.5-4kWh.

 

Ah right, thanks. Makes more sense now. 👍🏻

 

To the OP: wouldn't it make more sense to buy a 2nd hand EV6? They have identical technology (but are of course different cars/ Hyundai offers a 5 year warranty though as opposed to the 7 year with Kia. So rather than a car with 2-3 years warranty left you'd have a car with 4-5 years warranty.

 

It would make sense but I’m not a fan of the look of the EV6, irrational I know but that’s the way I see. It… the EV6 is also a better drive too so makes perfect sense on paper…!

 

I'm interested in both of these too and have test driven them. I didn't think there was a vast difference in the drive to be honest. Review findings are fairly consistent that the EV6 is better in a bend and the I5 softer. But I can say with confidence that they both feel like fairly stable big cars that have a decent turn of pace but are not set up for B Road agility.
Apart from the styling differences, I think the I5 is marginally more practical, and moreover used values have dropped a bit more. On the downside the range of colours is comparatively dull, especially since the teal ones are quite rare. 2921/2 cars also have a slightly smaller battery and mostly no heat pump/battery heater as above.

If anyone knows, I'd be interested how much boot depth you gain in the Ioniq 5 premium when you take out the false floor. And whether this is across the whole floor area or just part of it? The one I looked at was an ultimate spec that had the subwoofer in the way. (Boot space is a key parameter, it'd be replacing an Octavia estate).

 

Changes afoot. The iPace and ID5 will shortly be returned to the employer and we’ll be on the lookout for a single replacement, will be bought by us, not a salary sacrifice car. Max budget is 30k.

Ioniq 5 73kWh Ultimate might fit the bill, been looking at some used examples at about £28-30k from the Approved used Hyundai dealer market. Cars will be late 21 or early 22 (71 plate or thereabouts). I want the comfort of the warranty so happy to pay a bit more for that.

Interested to learn of any experiences with Ioniq 5s from that period, especially negative / points to watch out for.

Suggestion I would make is look at Hyundai Main Dealer “Promise” scheme for Used Cars
If you buy a “Promise” car …..it comes with 5 years Hyundai warranty from the day you buy it
( currently they have 72 plate Premium and 71 plate Ultimate in your price range with low mileage.👍
My personal experience was that my good lady found the ride a bit squidgy, so we dismissed.

 

Changes afoot. The iPace and ID5 will shortly be returned to the employer and we’ll be on the lookout for a single replacement, will be bought by us, not a salary sacrifice car. Max budget is 30k.

Ioniq 5 73kWh Ultimate might fit the bill, been looking at some used examples at about £28-30k from the Approved used Hyundai dealer market. Cars will be late 21 or early 22 (71 plate or thereabouts). I want the comfort of the warranty so happy to pay a bit more for that.

Interested to learn of any experiences with Ioniq 5s from that period, especially negative / points to watch out for.

Meant to say, choose one with the light interior as it makes it so much more pleasant than the black foreboding ones, unless you are ok with that.

And I did a comparison posted here… https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/...r-i-pace-hse-vs-hyundai-ioniq-5-ultimate-awd-73kw-in-the-u-k.46486/#post-570782

I may have posted somewhere on speakev, but can’t remember what thread now.

 

Wow that’s a great review 👍🏻

 

When you view any potential cars or check with dealers if it has a heat pump this info will help determine visually…

Lift the bonnet and check the refrigerant label:

Refrigerant R-1234yf
Heat pump 900 ± 25g (32 ± 0.9 oz.)
Without heat pump 700 ± 25g (25 ± 0.9 oz.)

I posted this (Ioniq forum) as my car is meant to have eco and tech packs and you would assume that means a heat pump, but it doesn’t have a heat pump as below…

The 3 or 4 cables solution check detailed in this thread indicated the car I have does not have a heat pump, just the inner condenser solution, which is presumably a ‘halfway‘ type solution. The aircon refrigerant label which is oddly stuck onto the underside of the bonnet/hood (user manual page 2-15) rather than the normal place of the engine bay front cross member showed the same.
R-1234yf 700+-25g on label which cross checked to the user manual page2-11 confirming without heat pump.

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I posted this (Ioniq forum) as my car is meant to have eco and tech packs and you would assume that means a heat pump, but it doesn’t have a heat pump as below…

The 3 or 4 cables solution check detailed in this thread indicated the car I have does not have a heat pump, just the inner condenser solution, which is presumably a ‘halfway‘ type solution.

Is yours one of the "MY22.5" Ioniq5s which they shipped with some features downgraded due to supply chain issues from Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

I think the battery heater (to get fast charging speeds even when ambient is 10degC or lower) is more important than heat pump in any case.

 

In case anyone is interested I was passing a dealer today and took a couple of pics of the boot of a premium spec Ioniq 5 with the floating floor removed and the back seats as far forward as they go (leaving rear legroom tight for bigger adults but fine for kids).
I was actually quite impressed, I think in this configuration the total space available compares well with an Enyaq. The height is decent with the floor removed, it gives about an extra 10cm or so except in the bit where the rear seats have been slid forward from. Photos for comparison with my Octavia estate; the thing in both pics is the parcel shelf from my Octavia to provide a scale comparison. (The Octavia has a 600l boot).

 

Just to update this thread before it submerges completely. Thanks to all who have commented, really useful. Slight change to my circumstances in that our iPace will still be with us till October ‘24, so won‘t be buying a replacement until later this year, hopefully that will see a further drop in used prices and we can get a newer car for the same budget, or spend less for an earlier one.

Will reopen this in 6 months or so.

 

Just sold ours to CARMAX for 27. I hated this car

 

Great 1st post

 

I am thinking of buying a 23 plate 77kWh premium from a Hyundai dealer with 5 Year Promise warranty. Ecotronic Grey, with 15k miles for £25k. I have a refundable deposit on the car

Current I have the ultra efficient Soul 64kWh, but want something bigger

I know about the safety downgrades on 2023 model. The car has battery heater but no heat pump. Do these still have 12v battery issues

Any bad things I need to know about these?

 

They all have 12v issues if not operated and used correctly. I have seen no 12v issue on forums or FB with absolute definite cause beyond incorrect operation and use other than an old issue with the charging port door and the ICCU failures.

 

The only thing that would put me off an IONIQ 5 is that sadly they appear to be easy to steal

 

Caveat being if you live in London, no reports anywhere else yet.
There are quite a few ways to enhance the lack of security too.

 

Depreciation on EV is depressing (but worked well for me as a second hand buyer), 47% for a car registered last June.

I guess the new Model is out in June. I have seen the Korean reviews and it doesn't look that different, other than the rear wiper.

I presume the lack of rear wiper is issue in Winter. I had a Tesla M3 for a couple of months and lack of rear wiper wasn't a issue. How is it on the i5?

 

Lack of rear wiper is made out to be more of an issue than it actually is. The BMW 3 series was the most popular car for many years, and it didn't have a rear wiper.
Our Audi A5 convertible doesn't have one, so it's not an issue that the I-5 doesn't have one.
So what if the rear window needs the occasional clean, the rest of the car needs cleaning at the same time anyway.

 

@burnt_crisps2 EV Database claim a slightly higher range than my Soul 64KwH. I would be surprised if this is true, as I am currently getting 330 miles on the GOM at 100% from my mainly urban drives, which rises to 350 in later Summer.

Doing some research, I found a few pleasing features on 2023 Model Year Premium, to make up for loss of HDA2

• Digital Rear View Mirror
• V2L inside and outside
• Sliding centre console
• Battery Heater
• Improved Suspension
• Upgraded Soft touch interior + ambient lighting
• 77.4 kWh battery

Should hopefully be collecting it later this week.

Any one have Ecotronic Grey colour? Look nice in the video

I would like to know the opinions of any ex-Soul owners who switched to i5

 

That’s true of any car EV and ICE, good place to look at real range is EV-database

EV Database

A complete overview of all electric vehicles in Europe. Search and compare by range, make, model and price.

ev-database.org

Quite. My Freelander 2 is supposed to do 34 MPG, I get about 28, so yes off the mark there too.
I've found the I-5 does around 250 miles, at least for our mixed roads around our area. If I'm particularly careful, I can get closer to 290 if the weather is warm, and the roads are quiet, and top speed is kept to below 50 MPH.

@burnt_crisps2 EV Database claim a slightly higher range than my Soul 64KwH. I would be surprised if this is true, as I am currently getting 330 miles on the GOM at 100% from my mainly urban drives, which rises to 350 in later Summer.

Doing some research, I found a few pleasing features on 2023 Model Year Premium, to make up for loss of HDA2

• Digital Rear View Mirror
• V2L inside and outside
• Sliding centre console
• Battery Heater
• Improved Suspension
• Upgraded Soft touch interior + ambient lighting
• 77.4 kWh battery

Should hopefully be collecting it later this week.

Any one have Ecotronic Grey colour? Look nice in the video

I would like to know the opinions of any ex-Soul owners who switched to i5

Our 24 Ultimate doesn't have a digital rear view mirror, but does have battery preconditioning and the other stuff. IMO the sliding console is kinda pointless, as it spends all its time in the most forward position, so the arm rest is actually useful.
The suspension is very soft compared to my high mileage Freelander 2, but it does damp out the bumps and unpleasantness of rubbish roads very well, even on 20" wheels.
The GOM on ours shows 285 miles after a 100% charge, so don't expect the same range as the Soul, but if you're careful you might see 290 miles.

 

Our 24 Ultimate doesn't have a digital rear view mirror

That would be disappointing if my car had it missing, I was going off there press release

 

In IONIQ forum, owners confirm that Digital Rear mirror was pulled when it was on spec at order but pulled when it went into production