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Ionity installing Chademo in France and Italy

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#1 · (Edited)
So we all know that Ionity is this loss-making consortium launched by VAG in partnership with other German automakers, to rival the Supercharger network, but also to push for CCS to help drive out the incumbent competition from Asia.

In Italy, it looks like Ionity is being forced to install at least one Chademo at the highway stations.
I say forced because this goes against everything they're trying to do to quash Chademo.

An Avia station in France:

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A Shell station in France:

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One CCS only charger out of order:

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This is in Italy:

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shoot, I posted it in the wrong section.
Apologise for that.
 
#2 ·
The Chinese cars will just use CCS anyway, and the Japanese are still hanging their hat on hydrogen so not sure how it’s meant to drive out the competition 😆
 
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#3 · (Edited)
Irrelevent information, Nissan are adopting CCS anyway going forward for the EU.

I wonder if Ionity are making as big a loss as Nissan?


In mid-November the automaker posted a quarterly loss of about 44.4 billion yen ($420 million). It is now expecting to lose several times that — about 615 billion yen ($5.9 billion) in the fiscal year 2020, which ends in March. That is an improvement over its original expected loss of about 670 billion yen, which is about the same amount of money it lost in the fiscal year 2019.
 
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And what the Hell have Ionity got to do with ChaDeMo anyway?

What Jap manufacturers have funded their network?

Why do Nissan funded Ecotricity chargers not have CCS too?

By the way Ionity is an awesome network and very welcome.

I have 2 Leaf’s by the way so being totally unbiased here but ChaDeMo is ultimately finished in Europe but of course the connector will be supported for many years.
 
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France had legally required Chademo on all chargers.

Now they don't.

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One interesting thing to note was that ALL of these chargers were unoccupied when I drove by.
I wonder how long Ionity will be able to stay afloat and it's not like they have huge coverage.
They do have chargers here and there but still huge blank spots such that they are irrelevant in the big scheme of things.

Other companies like EnelX are installing new Chademo chargers by the hundreds, I think that people are writing it off prematurely or are being paid to troll against it.

As an example, EnelX is going to install 108 new fast chargers in Sardinia (Italy) alone, all will have the 3 connectors.
After this, Sardinia will be the area with the highest density of fast chargers in Europe and maybe even the world.