has anyone had this issue with their ev. When it's cold, not freezing, my car mists up like crazy inside. When I took the pics it was 3deg, the mist you see is completely on the inside. I've got it booked in for Tue but just wanted to know if any of you have ever came across this before I go in with it.
seamus1960
has anyone had this issue with their ev. When it's cold, not freezing, my car mists up like crazy inside. When I took the pics it was 3deg, the mist you see is completely on the inside. I've got it booked in for Tue but just wanted to know if any of you have ever came across this before I go in with it.
Misting inside
has anyone had this issue with their ev. When it's cold, not freezing, my car mists up like crazy inside. When I took the pics it was 3deg, the mist you see is completely on the inside. I've got it booked in for Tue but just wanted to know if any of you have ever came across this before I go in with it.
Most cars will do this after a oeriod of use.
Opening the windows, running the aircon, using a moisture absorbing bag.
There are other things you could do to keep the issue at bay.
Do you use anything to combat the problem?
Gaz
Opening the windows, running the aircon, using a moisture absorbing bag.
There are other things you could do to keep the issue at bay.
Do you use anything to combat the problem?
Gaz
Someone on here suggested that giving the inside of the windscreen a good clean can help - grease etc encourages water vapour to nucleate, or something like that. (I've not yet got round to verifying that myself.)
The mist will end up somewhere else, of course - only clean the windows you care most about!
The mist will end up somewhere else, of course - only clean the windows you care most about!
True, especially now on vehicles with materials used on the crash pad which is prone to gassing off clean the screen diligently and see how it goes do you run with AC on all the time?
+1 for cleaning the windscreen.
I've had similar issue with Leaf when I bought it. It's a combination of EV being stingy with AC when heating is used, the dealer cleaning agent used on dashboard and dirty window. The solution was to:
1. clean the windscreen
2. open windows on dryer cold days to refresh the air and then
3. run heat + AC to remove the moisture
I've had similar issue with Leaf when I bought it. It's a combination of EV being stingy with AC when heating is used, the dealer cleaning agent used on dashboard and dirty window. The solution was to:
1. clean the windscreen
2. open windows on dryer cold days to refresh the air and then
3. run heat + AC to remove the moisture
Do you run your AC all the time?
Something useful I learned on this forum (that I didn't believe until I tried it) was that running the AC all the time, especially in winter can cause this behaviour.
I was struggling on my LEAF and my i3 with steaming up when using pre-heating (which wouldn't turn on the AC) but don't have this problem any more.
I believe it is to do with the inside part of the AC system getting wet from running all the time. You need to run the heating with the AC off for a while, ideally with a high heat as well to dry out the inside part, so you will have to sacrifice efficiency for a bit!
It may not be fixed overnight by one hot run but it will probably improve it.
I now only run AC during winter when really needed in terms of misting up happening inside (which is rare since I stopped running it all the time) and I also periodically run it for 2-5 minutes (say, once a week) to move the refrigerant around. I'm not sure I need to do this on the i3 as it seems to do it itself, possibly to climate control the battery.
Good luck with fixing the problem and also with challenging preconceptions (as I had to do!)
Edit: also, if I have been using the AC on a journey in winter (usually due to being loaded with passengers for example) at the end of the journey I try to remember to turn off the AC at least a few mins before getting home, then turn the fan up a bit to assist with the above.
Something useful I learned on this forum (that I didn't believe until I tried it) was that running the AC all the time, especially in winter can cause this behaviour.
I was struggling on my LEAF and my i3 with steaming up when using pre-heating (which wouldn't turn on the AC) but don't have this problem any more.
I believe it is to do with the inside part of the AC system getting wet from running all the time. You need to run the heating with the AC off for a while, ideally with a high heat as well to dry out the inside part, so you will have to sacrifice efficiency for a bit!
It may not be fixed overnight by one hot run but it will probably improve it.
I now only run AC during winter when really needed in terms of misting up happening inside (which is rare since I stopped running it all the time) and I also periodically run it for 2-5 minutes (say, once a week) to move the refrigerant around. I'm not sure I need to do this on the i3 as it seems to do it itself, possibly to climate control the battery.
Good luck with fixing the problem and also with challenging preconceptions (as I had to do!)
Edit: also, if I have been using the AC on a journey in winter (usually due to being loaded with passengers for example) at the end of the journey I try to remember to turn off the AC at least a few mins before getting home, then turn the fan up a bit to assist with the above.
I support the a/c condensate left over theory. Every car does it. Running the last bit of a journey with the recirculation off might help a little. Say for 2-3 minutes.
I notice that even when well warmed up it can be a challenge to keep the windscreen mist free in these low temperatures.
On a techie point does the a/c actually run at very low temperatures? Some cars refuse to use the a/c below certain temperature as it can cause ice build up in the system. But presumably the e2008 is running the a/c "backwards" as a heater so maybe this limitation does not apply.
In the heat pump mode is it effectively extracting humidtiy from the air? On a Leaf it does as it somehow can run in both a/c mode to dehumidify and also heat pump to heat it. Don't ask me to explain how this works in but it definitely does. You have both heat and a/c buttons and turning them both on works magic. Better than the e2008.
I notice that even when well warmed up it can be a challenge to keep the windscreen mist free in these low temperatures.
On a techie point does the a/c actually run at very low temperatures? Some cars refuse to use the a/c below certain temperature as it can cause ice build up in the system. But presumably the e2008 is running the a/c "backwards" as a heater so maybe this limitation does not apply.
In the heat pump mode is it effectively extracting humidtiy from the air? On a Leaf it does as it somehow can run in both a/c mode to dehumidify and also heat pump to heat it. Don't ask me to explain how this works in but it definitely does. You have both heat and a/c buttons and turning them both on works magic. Better than the e2008.
Not sure you are right on that. The ancillaries energy consumption would be high if it was PTC and I am pretty sure I find the consumption barely shifts when A/C is added to heating. Not that I fully believe these consumption meters. At least it has them. The e2008 is poor on giving such data.
I have the heating on pretty much all the time in the winter and don't turn it off when parking up - and do not get any major condensation issues
As said by a few others, giving the inside of the windscreen a thorough clean will help a lot. I also recently added a coat of Gtechniq G5 water repellant after cleaning and it seems to have made a positive difference
As said by a few others, giving the inside of the windscreen a thorough clean will help a lot. I also recently added a coat of Gtechniq G5 water repellant after cleaning and it seems to have made a positive difference
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