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Model 3 - Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive (2023) - Related queries, questions, info

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#1 ·
Didn’t want to load the 0% thread with M3 LR RWD specific info so started a new thread, specifically for this rare model.

To start things off;

We know Tesla insurance is a subject of its own but throw a rare model into the equation and the options seem very limited!

Thankfully at least Admiral are quoting, well……only Admiral in my case via lots of comparison websites. I had this issue when I had one of the first MG4s last year……bit stressful.

Hope some other underwriters catch on next year……I’ll stick with Admiral for now.
 
#9 ·
First UK review of the LR RWD I've seen. Quite a comprehensive video, suggests approx 300 miles without even going for efficiency
Not the most informed tester. There is a good reason for opening the doors with the button rather than the latch and weight is 1735kg. For road warriors the range, efficiency and SuC network takes some beating. For most 'normal' drivers the regular RWD is plenty good enough. The LR might be worth a couple of grand more than the regular car, not the differential currently advertised IMHO.
 
#10 ·
The LR might be worth a couple of grand more than the regular car, not the differential currently advertised IMHO.
The difference currently is £3,760. The question each of the prospective LR RWD buyers need to consider is: is additional 80 miles WLTP range and 250kW charging speed worth going over standard RWD?
 
#12 ·
Indeed. Every buyer is different and it is there money to spend as they wish. I've got a LR AWD and I never drive more than about 200 miles (3 hours) without taking a break. For the half dozen times a year I take a long trip it is hard to justify, but buying a car that was just over a year old it was easier to justify the additional £4k for AWD, Heat pump, better performance and sound system. The range difference between the new RWD and LR is less significant that it was when I was looking (SR+ v LR)

Put it this way, if I keep the car 12 years which is usual for me, them allowing for potential difference in resale we are looking at a lifetime difference of maybe £20 per month. Works for me.
Awesome Man Maths. Chapeau ;)
 
#11 ·
For me yes. I have relatives about 260 miles away who I need to visit regularly, eg several times a year, and potentially more often as they age and being able to easily hit them in a oner if necessary with just a 5 min loo stop in any conditions is important to me.

Also we love to travel to far north west Scotland, the land that time and charging infrastructure forgot. I know it is doable in standard variant but I just value that extra range if there are charging issues.

Put it this way, if I keep the car 12 years which is usual for me, them allowing for potential difference in resale we are looking at a lifetime difference of maybe £20 per month. Works for me.
 
#14 ·
If it is right for you, and you can afford - go for it!

My first venture into EVs was a vehicle that could manage 100 miles at best. I still managed a couple of 300 mile trips but had to keep the speed down and make 4 or 5 stops to do this. My wife still drives that car and it is great for local trips but I wouldn't recommend it as someone's main car.

The ability to drive for 3 hours at motorway speed in all weathers, and good charging speed is what I need for my use pattern. The latest M3 RWD would be absolutely fine for this. Taking an extra 10 mins stop half a dozen times a year really isn't a problem. If you are doing 200+ miles in a day every week then having a bigger battery does give you more options and is worth having. You pays you money.....
 
#16 ·
One other key reason for me plumping for the LR is battery degradation. I fully intend on keeping the car for ten years min, possibly much longer, which could be 150k miles plus.

I guess in my head I'm allowing for a range loss of up to 20% beyond that 10 years (I've got a Leaf, degradation is a thing I'm very conscious of). On a cold rainy winters day ploughing up the motorway full of family in a standard range could mean a lot less than 200 - well if the cold weather range tests I've seen of a brand new lightly loaded SR are anything to go by.

I'm sure folks will tell me I'm being overly pessimistic re Tesla degradation, but I'd prefer not to take the chance as I'm gonna be doing more and more long range journeys as my folks and the car age.
 
#15 ·
One thought though, these are a rare breed, not available to order normally, and come 2-3 years when you come to sell it nobody is really going to know what it is, insurance systems may not naturally have it in the their list of cars, etc etc. Unicorns can be great, they can also be a PIA
 
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Sort of appropriate to this thread I guess - I was reading a thread on Reddit CarTalkUK bemoaning the extortionate APR rates right now on both new and second hand cars.

I shouldn't have I know but I couldn't resist poking the bear. I mentioned the zero down zero interest on Model 3s right now.

The only reply was from the OP saying how bad a new Tesla was as a choice if you were going to keep it beyond 3-4 years as by that stage the battery was basically a right off and a new one costs £22k.

The irony was last year the OP had had to pretty much right off his 6 year old diesel focus because 2 injectors were wrecked and would cost as much as the car to replace.

He was either being deliberately obtuse or hugely misinformed re Tesla batteries.
 
#23 ·
Ok so this question is slightly off topic I guess but does anyone know if the referral loyalty points reward thingy (yeah I have really researched this) can be used to part pay for an item. Like if I have 7500 points can I use that for something that costs 8500 points and pay the balance in cash?
 
#24 ·
Ok so this question is slightly off topic I guess but does anyone know if the referral loyalty points reward thingy (yeah I have really researched this) can be used to part pay for an item. Like if I have 7500 points can I use that for something that costs 8500 points and pay the balance in cash?
Want to buy a roof rack, heh?
I'm not sure but T&Cs say credits are not transferrable for cash so not sure how you wanted to convert 1000 credits to cash. But I might be wrong. I'm sure Tesla people will clarify this when you collect the car.

I have a Q too: just reading user manual and there is nothing about headlights setting for driving in Europe. Don't tell me such an advanced car still requires headlight stickers o_O
 
#26 ·
According to the manual:

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As for topping up referral points - not that I’ve seen and I’ve bought a few things with them. Might be worth a conversation if my wife’s referrals get delivered soon.. she’s 10 pending!!!
 
#27 ·
@Jon G
This is not necessarily what I asked for. I was expecting simple switch between LHD and RHD (like I have in my current ID.3). The way it is described (I don't have a car yet so cannot check it) it is rather for the workshop to set the individual headlights left-right and up-down. A bit disappointed TBH :unsure:
 
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@Jon G
This is not necessarily what I asked for. I was expecting simple switch between LHD and RHD (like I have in my current ID.3). The way it is described (I don't have a car yet so cannot check it) it is rather for the workshop to set the individual headlights left-right and up-down. A bit disappointed TBH :unsure:
The note says you don’t need to adjust
 
#31 ·
The “temporarily” leaves a little doubt over what’s actually happening, maybe you won’t dazzle oncoming traffic but you won’t get footpath illumination like you’d get at home without adjusting

For a holiday, especially in summer, do nothing, if you were moving more permanently you might want them adjusting I guess
 
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The “temporarily” leaves a little doubt over what’s actually happening, maybe you won’t dazzle oncoming traffic but you won’t get footpath illumination like you’d get at home without adjusting

For a holiday, especially in summer, do nothing, if you were moving more permanently you might want them adjusting I guess
Good points, could be that.
 
#33 ·
Well I've just phoned Admiral and setup my switch from dirty shitty old diesel chugger to shiny bright Terry Tesla Model 3 RWD LR (I was very specific about that and he read that back to me several times) and for the remaining 8 months of my policy that switch is costing me circa £100.

Which would suggest £150 for the full year. Now I do know that my old diesel was only about £200 on my multi car policy.

So just £350 for Terry Tesla as a yearly premium!?

As somebody else said, wait until renewal time for the real story eh 😭😭
 
#34 ·
Well I've just phoned Admiral and setup my switch from dirty shitty old diesel chugger to shiny bright Terry Tesla Model 3 RWD LR (I was very specific about that and he read that back to me several times) and for the remaining 8 months of my policy that switch is costing me circa £100.

Which would suggest £150 for the full year. Now I do know that my old diesel was only about £200 on my multi car policy.

So just £350 for Terry Tesla as a yearly premium!?

As somebody else said, wait until renewal time for the real story eh 😭😭
Thats a cracking price. I've lots of no claims, low risk profession, low risk postcode, no business use, 10k miles a year and I'm at nearly £500
 
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#42 ·
Just off the phone with LV.
LR RWD still not in their database so they insured me based on LR AWD with the note it is actually LR RWD until they get the database sorted.
My current policy ends on 30/10 so they quoted me £28.85 extra for switching from my '70' plate ID.3. If I to insure the Tesla for the whole year today it would've been £540.72 which taking into account more powerful trim (and my not-necessarily-good-at-NCD :p wife as named driver) is not bad premium in current insurance climate. So for once I did not hesitate to use my card ;)

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#43 ·
Just off the phone with LV.
LR RWD still not in their database so they insured me based on LR AWD with the note it is actually LR RWD until they get the database sorted.
My current policy ends on 30/10 so they quoted me £28.85 extra for switching from my '70' plate ID.3. If I to insure the Tesla for the whole year today it would've been £540.72 which taking into account more powerful trim (and my not-necessarily-good-at-NCD :p wife as named driver) is not bad premium in current insurance climate. So for once I did not hesitate to use my card ;)

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Should have insured as RWD not dual motor, surely the risk is associated with performance not battery capacity. Still a good outcome…..but I always want ’best’ 🤣
 
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Should have insured as RWD not dual motor, surely the risk is associated with performance not battery capacity. Still a good outcome…..but I always want ’best’ 🤣
That's exactly what I said to the lady on the phone: it is RWD so (300ish bhp) car just with bigger battery and LR AWD is 500ish bhp car. So I'm paying for potentially higher risk.
But on the other side better to have it covered against more expensive car (LR AWD) than the one below your actual value (RWD) and for 28 quid I wasn't bothered. Hopefully database is updated by end of Oct when my policy is up for renewal.