It would make it more useful that previously. But you're right, 22 miles will probably be all it achieves. It should still get exception mpg's from the petrol engine though.

Sadly I fear Toyota UK won't know what to do with it and overprice it as a range topper to the already rather expensive traditional Prius.

 

Battery range is immaterial, the new Prius is absolutely hideous.

 

I saw the new Prius in the flesh the other day in Kent. I agree when I first saw pictures I wasn't a fan, but thought it looked better in the real world. The rear light cluster zig zagging from the bottom to the top of the car will make it distinguishable at night. I reckon it's a grower! Missed opportunity re the range though, when other PHEV's have had 30-40 something miles range for a while, I fear it won't revolutionise the world!

 

@Prg350 I had to take evasive action last week when I followed one - it does nothing for me much like the new design "language" Lexus are using.

 

Someone at Toyota really liked the Mirai's styling, I feel.

 

It looks like it has melted

 

This I was not expecting -- an upgraded Plug-in Prius that looks like a cross between the Prius and the Mirai and does a claimed 22 EV range.

Toyota's Prius Prime plug-in hybrid touts 120MPGe

Nevertheless I suspect this will not impress anyone on this forum...

 

Depends on price. The previous PiP was ludicrously overpriced here vs the already expensive standard Prius for 10 miles of plug in range.

 

Agreed, but do you seriously think it'll change this time round? They'll probably want to charge even more for it now it has double the range.

 

It could work for them ( Toyota ) for people who don't want a Golf-Passat GTE, but I can see people preferring the Ioniq for those who don't want a VAG product ...assuming eTron is too expensive, same BMW's 225XE / 330e.

 

I think that in everyday driving beyond its electric range its economy will far outstrip the VW plug-ins, and that is what (apart from its, lets say distinctive looks) will set it apart in the market. It's a niche within a niche, but for some people will be worth the premium.

 

It's biggest competitor will be the standard Prius. The price premium for the previous plug in Prius over the standard Prius would have been practically impossible to recoup given its tiny electric range.

I agree though the Prius has the best set up for economic running when in Ice mode compared to VAG and other PHEVs etc.

 

The Plugin Prius is slightly better looking than the standard Prius IMHO.

 

I hate to say it but this may therefore be the ideal ICE to own as a companion to a BEV...

 

No, an Ampera's still a better ICE as 90% journeys < 40 miles etc!

 

As someone said somewhere else, at least if you're sitting in it you don't have to look at it.

 

But I can only sit in one at a time

 

Toyota's five years behind when it comes to plug-ins - sad to see from the brand that brought electric power to the mass market. Lots of weird thinking going on in that corporation.

 

Behind some people maybe, but I'd be confident this would make it to the end of the 10 year/150k mile warranty it will have in the states. Not so sure about a golf GTE or the a3 etron, they hit a very small battery very hard.

 

To be fair to Toyota the Gen 3 PiP was surprisingly effective given it's pathetic EV range. In my case I managed 13% EV use over 50k miles with very little short range driving - admittedly I took every possible opportunity to top up. To be critical of Toyota it would have been MUCH more effective even with just double the usable battery capacity. My estimate was that it was using 2kWh out of a 4.4kWh battery for EV use and about 0.2kWh for hybrid operation after than so ridiculously conservative. IMO it was purely designed as a compliance car and severely restricted because of it - I got the the really annoyed stage which is partly why I sold it after only 2 years, possibly the worst possible timing.

 

I have been driving this car for 10 days now. The EV range is not bad - not quite the 38 miles claimed, but definitely above 30 miles with 35 being fairly easy to achieve.

Performance around town is good in EV mode, with fairly decent acceleration. On a shortish run (15 miles each way) in the weekend we got up to about 75mph - the car keeping up with other traffic on the A40 with no problem at all.

Driving gently, expect about 5.5 miles per kWh, using aircon, higher speeds etc can push this down below 5 miles per kWh. For my 14 mile round trip to the office plus detours to a supermarket etc, this is absolutely fine.

As yet, I have no idea how the car performs when burning petrol.

 

Another review:
2017 Toyota Prius Plug-in Running Costs, MPG, Economy, Reliability, Safety | What Car?

 

I agree, in fact I'd go as far as say it's much better looking to my eyes (apart from the 15" wheels). Unlike the previous version (which I think largely switched the standard Prius NiMh battery to Lithium for bigger capacity in the same kind of space) it must have been more significantly re-engineered because it's also lost the middle rear seat in the process, deal breaker for my future shortlist; come on Toyota, is a 5 seater that hard to package given you had a clean sheet of paper for the new Prius???

I'm sorry - I don't think the phrase "better looking" belongs in anything written about the latest Prius in any variant. I've always been a Prius fan and quite liked the different looks, but with this version I think the designer was on the blue smarties!!!

 

I guess it just proves that beauty is in the eye of the beholder .

Some people think an Audi is a good looking car. I involuntary burst out laughing when people suggest that as to me they are ugly and dull as dishwater!

 

From an art-historical point of view car design is very much in a Baroque or even Mannerist phase. Personally I prefer the High Renaissance

 

Says the person driving a " People's Car " !!!! ( as do I ....

When I had an i3 on extended test drive I was strongly urged by the other driver in the house " to park that thing around the corner, we're not having that on our driveway "

I agree the Prius latest gen is pug-ugly, but, it does stand out.
It looks far more modern than say the Gen2 version. It's the interior layout that really gets me though, it looks a mix of over-the-top-modern and cheap painted surfaces. Really puts me off considering it, shame considering I think the PHEV version wins the battery range and non battery MPG races ( ignoring a 2nd hand Ampera)