I would have thought an electric Micra or Juke would be very reliable.

 

Formal V2G announcement perhaps?
Or more possible, my Leaf 2.zero will be arriving at the dealership shortly. After all, they made a big thing of Leo's!

 

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I think V2G is a good shout.. with the interview being "powered by a car"

 

Never heard of her. Google tells me she's Australian.

 

Watch the movie "The Wolf of Wallstreet" , you wont regret it!"

 

Could be a vehicle sharing the Clio/ Zoe platform. Unlikley to be V2G as its of little practical application at the moment, with no established market, international standards /controls or implementation at property level. The UK is still thrashing that out, and the rest of the world is no further forward. Its also only possible with vehicles that have CCS or Chademo with direct access to the pack at DC level..
As a young woman, what is her market appeal? young, single, affluent, aspirational, not something that shouts out Micra to me. Or is it young Kick ass Aussie, in for adventure and a fun time, so could it be a Ute. That has been suggested in the past as being approproiate for the Australian market.
Tomorrow isnt far away. I can hardly wait.

 

Its also only possible with vehicles that have CCS or Chademo with direct access to the pack at DC level..

New Leaf has AC bidirectional. Cost of DC V2G was too expensive for home, so grid tied AC is now being deployed. See thread below.

Leaf 40kWh V2G News & Discussion

 

There are some electric micras at the Sunderland plant but I'd assumed they were not going ahead with mass production.

It might be the specs on the Nismo Leaf?

 

There is no auto in the current Micra range. Nissan lose sales as a consequence. Draw your own conclusion as to if there is space in the line up for an E-Power Micra.

 

V2G would be pretty boring. I'm hoping it's another EV or PHEV Quashqai.

 

Releasing the 60kWh early?

Thats what people are really interested in.

 

This, maybe:

Nissan Leaf 2018 UPDATE - high-performance sporty Nismo edition is coming SOON

 

This, maybe:

Nissan Leaf 2018 UPDATE - high-performance sporty Nismo edition is coming SOON

Does that suggest that 64 kwh is not being launched until end of 2019 (2020my) or it would have said coming in 2018?

 

I'm hoping it will be the announcement of the 40kWh version of the enV200 finally going on sale in the UK, which they had originally said would be before Christmas.

Although realistically I can't see Margot Robbie being that enthused by a van, so chances are it will be something sporty like the Leaf Nismo.

 

I've had another thought. The official launch of the Nissan Formula E team which is replacing Renault for the 2018/9 season?
However the V2G announcement is a little overdue and there was an announcement by OLEV about funding a trial a couple of weeks ago.
MEDIA ADVISORY: GOVERNMENT’S ANNOUNCEMENT ON NISSAN LED VEHICLE-TO-GRID IUK WINNING PROJECT
It looks to be a big thing in Nissan's eyes.

 

Couldn't care less about V2G as it's not yet a thing and probably won't be until this gen Leaf is well past it's sell by date.
If it's a Nismo version with no more power again I'll add that to the couldn't care less list.
60kWh - yes please.
Another ev/phev - again yes please.
Eyeliner/lip gloss or more useless tech just isn't worth my time of day.

 

Couldn't care less about V2G as it's not yet a thing and probably won't be until this gen Leaf is well past it's sell by date.

Gen 2 Leaf is said to be compatible with V2G, no reason to believe it isn't. Reckon some will have it installed by Easter. I'd hope a Gen 2 Leaf isn't past its sell by date before its been delivered!
As to useless tech, if it means zero leccy bills then I might be in.

 

I'm not really that interested in supplying the grid with power, however if it could be used as a V2H to provide the power needed to run the house overnight after the solar has finished for the day and coupled with a charge point that has import/export sensor to monitor solar and only provide enough power from the car to run just my house, and during the day charge the car from excess solar with a fully configerable web based interface with minimum/maximum levels of charge etc. that that would lower my electricity costs and would therefore make the price of a car more affordable.

 

I think you guys may be missing the point. Most solar set up's in the UK aren't going to run your house with enough left to charge the car then have enough left over in the car to run the house again and so on.
Fair enough if you use almost nothing in the first place but for most people it just doesn't add up.
Certainly if it's making any noticable cost difference to the car I'd much prefer them to leave it well alone.
I also have no interest in keeping the grid topped up when the battery on the car is only just upto the job in the first place.
Past saving a few pence a year on an already very low electric bill I can't see why anyone would want it on this gen opf ev and I really can't see why there is a song and dance about it.

 

I also have no interest in keeping the grid topped up when the battery on the car is only just upto the job in the first place.
Past saving a few pence a year on an already very low electric bill I can't see why anyone would want it on this gen opf ev and I really can't see why there is a song and dance about it.

What about if it allowed for a zero electric bill, or even made you a profit?
It is suggested that any grid feed-in would be at a higher rate than the cost of off-peak charging (and with solar PV, some of that charging may be free and you'd get feed-in rates for that too based on the amount generated!)

 

I've learned with announcements like these never to be too excited, because I'm always left like....
The only announcements nowadays I actually truly take notice of are companies regarding Elon.

An announcement of an all electric Micra I doubt to be honest as it'd pretty much be a direct competition to the Leaf at this point, albeit, it is a slightly smaller car

 

Depends if it's ev or the version Japan gets. Or some mix of the two. A full ev is unlikely thanks to the Leaf. The e-power is essentially a small hybrid with the gearbox replaced by an electric motor. A phev version of that would be brilliant.

 

To be honest Siraff, I could get on board with that, as long as it had enough range to cover most of my commutes (i.e around 20 miles)

 

I was thinking maybe half a Leaf pack which in something pretty small should equal 40-ish miles in decent conditions.
The other thing with a phev is you can run the battery right the way down without fear so even if it only had 10kWh it would do a lot of ev miles thanks to being small, light(ish) and no worry about running flat.

 

Honestly how long do you think that would last and how likely you would have such a surplus that it would be a noticable amount in the first place?
I doubt many energy companies would be paying more than they are selling at for long and certainly not in any large quantity.

In actual fact, over the course of a year the Solar FIT balances out my electricity and gas bills already.
Regarding V2G, presumably you can either generate from solar or import say, 20kWh into the car's battery (or whatever you decide) and sell it back when it's required or even use some at home overnight direct from the car battery. Also hopefully keep the power on during a power cut.
I guess it depends on setup costs but the claim is you'll effectively get free electricity. We'll have to see I suppose.

 

Presumably you are on one of the earlier FITs because I cant see how that is possible with current ones unless you have a massive installation?

I recently did a breakeven type questionnaire and on a 4kW system (which is standard i think) it was about a five+ year payback, and there's no way that outside May-Sep there would be any meaningful electricity produced, so you must be really churning it out in the summer?

A quick google says
A typical residential solar panel installation working at peak efficiency will provide up to 3,400kWh of clean electricity per year.

I use about 5,000 kWh just of electricity across the year. Gas another 12,0000. Pretty typical i'd have thought. SO nowhere near a balance.

So your comparison from FITs does not give a true picture of actual energy balance and if it is based on FITs they must be very old ones that you could never get now, so you cant extrapolate from your experience to anyone looking at fitting it now. Current FIT is less than 4p kWh which is only around a third a standard cost of electric and probably half Economy 7.

Either that or you must have a truly massive install.

 

Elon has proposed a massive system where home energy banks and solar for 50,000 Australians would drastically reduce bills and avoid building another power station. Another similar scheme to V2G where cars replace home battery banks.

Elon Musk's record-breaking 'virtual power plant' will see 50,000 solar power-generating homes

 

Another thought, could it be a launch date for the iMx concept? Possibly called the Terra? It’s an SUV based on the new Leaf platform. With the Kona announcement are Nissan trying to promote their first EV SUV?

 

Honestly how long do you think that would last and how likely you would have such a surplus that it would be a noticable amount in the first place?
I doubt many energy companies would be paying more than they are selling at for long and certainly not in any large quantity.

Well, it has been known for the cost of a kWh to rise to £2,500 as peak times. The power companies need to sink that cost themselves or have some source they can draw on.

I'm not greedy - they can drain my battery for £1,000 per kWh. In fact, I'll buy a spare Leaf that just sits in the drive ready.

 

@Orrery Inside your jest is a serious opportunity. Recently I was fleeced by an UltraCharger (operated by you know who) that delivered just under 6 kWh for £7.20 in 40 minutes on a very cold day. Pay for a rapid (it looked like a rapid) and get a fast charger - sharp practice in my view. That charge cost me £1.20 a kWh.

With V2G, when you visit the local car park you could be selling electricity to other EVs that need to charge. It means the charging capability of the car park is less constrained by the limits of the grid supply and can have more chargers. Perhaps about 25p per kWh would be the going rate - cheaper than many rapids. Everybody knows V2G works the question is what pricing incentive is needed to encourage people to use it?

Even more fun would be ac based V2V where short distance EVers help out long distance drivers, reselling their cheap rate kWhs and everybody raises a digit in salute to greedy charging operators. Introduce three phase V2G and V2V at 22 kWh and life gets interesting.

PS Details of protocols are described here:
http://www.elaad.nl/upload/files/EV_related_protocol_overview_v1.0.pdf

 

It has been proven hasn't it that if you take energy at the right time and then sell it at the right time, you can make enormous profit.
Elon Musks large scale battery has done just that

 

Given it is not a big announcement at a car show or CES, could it just be they are bringing the e-power note to the UK? (Don't they even drive on the left in Japan so it shouldn't be too hard)?

I notice the note with a petrol engine starts at about 11k and I don't see why the epower should cost any more than that which would be a great price for electric engine motoring.

 

I think the announcement is going to be V2G using the ac port. I have been checking the IEC 61851-1 standard and it does support in a very basic way V2G so if the inverter is bi-directional and able to sync voltage, phase and frequency to the grid it looks possible. The big question over charging is will the 60 kWh car support the IEC 15118 standard? Because that would mean the end of needing an RFID card or an app, just plug and charge. 15118 supports high level communications and a charge time schedule that comes from outside the car.

I don't think you are going to see the Note again in the UK. If they do E-power with a global car then I think it will be the Micra, then perhaps the Qashqai with a bigger battery.

 

They do, but nothing is easy.

 

I thought the Note was discontinued here? If offers no real benefit to the Micra

 

Ease of access was the Note's strong point and the new Micra's weaker point, I wonder how many 'seniors' have jumped ship to say a Jazz?

 

NissanUK twitter account is saying 'a special motorsports program'

 

Also that it 'will be powered by Nissan electric vehicle technology'