I lasted 10 minutes ….……”it takes 1 hour to get 38 miles charge on this public charger”

Its an ID Buzz on CCS…… i turned off sorry

 

Yeah it's not a balanced account yet is it? I'm sticking with....who knows,?

 

hatchet job so far for me.

'Im a journalist with no access to the internet and 28 miles of range, lets drive to the cotswolds without checking the route!'

'we interviewed a van driver forced to drive an EV and he wasn't happy'

 

ultimately, the switch is happening, globally, programmes like this are really just about patting the heads of people trying to wish it all away.

 

Agree that.

 

Most definitely a hatchet job.
What is the point of these types of programs?

 

omg that person parking 4 wheels on the pavement. proper anti-EV 30 minutes this.

 

"Things are much better for those that charge overnight"......."A full charge might cost as little as £20"🤦‍♀️

 

they are basing that on full cap at night I guess. and public charging at the highest market rate. but obviously totally misleading for most people.

 

BBC at it again then, very sad to see them continually spreading FUD around.

 

How to Complain.... Make A Complaint | Contact the BBC

 

That was a 's**t show' wasn't it .... pardon my oblique language.

The woman parking on the path .... could they not have drilled a hole through the wall, parked properly on the road and used an illuminated solid cable foot?

Embarrassing. Guess I should have guessed when it was flagged as a 30 minute assessment. Sound bites and carefully engineered scenarios. Do better BBC.

 

Just watched it. He seems to have set off without setting up any apps or payment methods to prove how complicated it would be. Lots of negatives. Oh and let's go to the most populated part of the UK to try out the charging network, in Glen Coe. Panorama has gone down hill in my estimation.

 

I wish we could have a "useful" programme made by a knowledgeable and well informed reporter for the enquirer or newbie; one whom could show the audience about the practicalities; charging/navigation/app./battery temp. etc., shortcuts and economic skills (tariffs: night/TOU etc.)......not always these "Woe is E.V"
Deborah.

 

hear, hear .... there's nothing out there bar that ridiculous 5th Gear thing were they just razz EV's round a track.

And surely such a program would genuinely be a watch .... something people would want to watch and learn from.

 

Just finished and I watched the whole thing. I'd say a hatchet job but not entirely. Yes the negative issues were highlighted, charging mainly and yes it's a problem for many which will not go away.
The joined up thinking with charging companies and the charge failures will put many off.
The woman in Liverpool, fair play but it's illegal and shouldn't be encouraged.
I find myself lucky to be able to charge off road cheaply overnight and have occasional expensive charging but at home offsets this.
Sort the charging out away from urban areas and trunk roads decent range and an acceptable price for the car then more will change over.

 

My complaint has gone in... if everyone else spends 15 minutes on their complaints form maybe they might take notice!

 

I'm in for that as well Brian. Consider it done!

 

I was bemused by the comment about planning pee stops and not wanting to plan charging stops as well, without anyone seeming to realise they’re the same thing.

 

EXACTLY !

 

I cancelled my TV licence a few years ago, and I haven't seen anything to change my mind. I can watch Eurovision through their app, and I watch Strictly at a friend's house, but apart from that, nothing on TV. I do pay for Netflix, Prime, Disney+, and YouTube Premium, which I thought was a waste until I had a 4 month free trial, and kept going - I didn't realise how much I hate ads! There's lots of good EV content on YouTube, such as Fully Charged, Electroheads, Electrifying, EV Man, and many more. I've also learnt a lot about electrics, enough to install electric heaters and a home storage battery successfully, saving money over paying a professional. In Scotland we don't have part P, so it might not be illegal.

 

My licence expires end of this month then i"m done paying for this carp.

 

There’s nothing like a good bit of balanced journalism, and that was nothing like a good bit of balanced journalism.

 

Balance is the problem - it seems fine until there's a strong consensus, when the only opposing voices are provably wrong. Then they platform insanity, in the name of balance. You see, my ignorance is exactly as valid as your knowledge.

A quote by Isaac Asimov

Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy mean...

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Asking for opinions on EV ownership at a classic car show ... like going to an abattoir and asking for vegan food recommendations

BBC journalism strikes again !

 

Well we’ve heard from all the rational people, now, for balance, is a complete moron.

 

Look on the bright side. If he puts people off buying electric cars we benefit as the number of people trying to use public chargers won’t increase making our lives less stressful. Every cloud has a silver lining.

 

Didn’t panorama used to be a hard hitting journalistic programme? Not Thats life.

 

So first comment, you're doing a programme about EVs, so why wasn't the first scene not at Fully Charged Live rather than a classic car show?

Second point not even trying to get it right with no research.

Third Andy Palmer, haven't I seen a thread from him espousing Hydrogen and E-Fuels? FUD merchant.

Fourth no description of what's the difference between chargers.

Fifth tell people how much better for the environment they are currently on the UKs electricty grid mix, and how they will improve due to renewables coming on line.

Sixth home charging, explain the split between home versus public charging, also tell us how many cars have off street parking. Explain tariffs, that overnight tariffs are cheap. Again finding an edge case with someone with no off-street parking. Show the 100 people who do have off street parking. Finding just problems, written specifically to do that.

Seventh tell us what you can buy a new EV for now, MG4, ID.3, Zoe, Fiat 500E, Tesla, etc, etc. Explain running cost comparisons.

Eighth did you actually interview anyone with a Tesla, you know biggest selling car in the world.

Ninth we don't manufacture anymore, this is not news.

Tenth explain why what Norway have done, tiny population, massive gas reserves and sovereign wealth fund can't work with over 15 times the population.

Eleventh explain that the bottleneck for chargers is the DNO getting power to the place the vakoous charger companies want to put chargers, there is plenty of investment waiting from their side.

Interview more people who own their own EV.

Give an alternative to help bring down our emissions.

Unreliable chargers, but things are getting better, had more long term owners been interviewed he might know that, but he didn't want to know.

The shit Panorama episode on the kids mining Cobalt for Tesla in the DRC was worse, cos they trotted out Nuns.

This one was really shit, Panorama jas become a joke if they just trot out sensationalist, massively biased, FUD.

 

Shocking program,
As soon as I saw they had the guy from Aston Martin it was clear where this was heading. They were part of the hatchet research used by FUD merchants to claim EVs are worse than ICE cars

 

Complaint lodged, what a bunch of arseholes.

 

IF he'd got in a car with a regular EV driver he wouldn't have experienced most of the problem he hit.

It could've been educational and helped people understand what was required instead of trying to scare people and interviewing members of the public without a clue.

 

That Andy Palmer was on twitter the other day with the Rowan Atkinson article complaining of all the ‘EV nutters’ shouting at him for talking about hydrogen and efuel. Says he’s an EV fan (that again) but just wants to see alternatives explored.

Sigh. Ok so explore. While Toyota is trying to prevent the last H2 station from being closed, and efuel is the domain of the rich and motorsport, everyone else will just get on with transitioning to BEVs which will be finished before either of those is a meaningful option. That isn’t bias towards BEVs, its just reality.

I hope Rowan ’I like EVs really’ and Andy ‘but I did some stuff before with batteries’ aren’t a new wave of ‘yes but’ which is almost more annoying than the willfully ignorant - more manipulative

 

Andy Palmer was the main driver for the Leaf when he was at Nissan and these days is chairman of battery manufacturer InoBat Auto, so I don’t think you can say he isn’t an EV fan. While I don’t agree with a lot of his opinions on hydrogen and synthetic fuels, he has said that hydrogen may be a solution for HGVs which don’t work well with batteries, which may be true.

 

Poor journalism, agree.

I‘d love to see him built his own house, if he’s going to do that without any research, and just think it’s the same as with the Lego bricks when he was 8 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️