Don’t have one but presumably no heater so wet road resistance would be the biggest effect of winter. I’m guessing that range isn’t as different summer to winter as is the case for 4 wheel EVs. Maybe look in the Two wheel section, see if anyone has one and message them? I’m quite tempted to try it myself. Should be very efficient transport.

 

Should be very efficient transport.

They claim 60 miles from a 2.7 kWh battery - 22 mpkWh is pretty impressive! Realistically I doubt I'd see more than 40 miles (15 mpkWh) in ideal conditions, and maybe as few as 27 miles (10 mpkWh) in bad conditions - still a heck of a lot better than my ID.4!

 

I have a Piaggio 1 moped (my son thinks it is his). The claimed range is 26 miles From a 1.4kwh 48v battery
My son rode it back from the dealers and I was in convoy on my Triumph. It’s a 22 mile journey, mostly open roads through the new forest, with the last 4 miles through town.
We got home with 4 miles range still on the display. And it was a pretty chilly November afternoon.
it’s only been used for short journeys since but we are not noticing a significant range drop in winter. I was expecting a similar 20% drop to the car, but with no heaters, and lights always on, the difference is less than I expected.
Unlike some electric scooters, there is storage under the seat and the battery is easily lifted out for charging indoors.

I test rode the Piaggio 1 Active. Same bike but with a bigger battery and a 2kw motor, rather than 1.2kw. That compares with the TC Max. it’s good for a 40 mile range and 45mph top speed. Based on our experience with the moped version that should hold true. If your are down South, check out Dearden Motorcycles, they were super helpful.

Another alternative would be the Maeving RM1, available with dual battery but it’s a lot more money.

 

Another alternative would be the Maeving RM1, available with dual battery but it’s a lot more money.

I've come to the conclusion that the SuperSoco TC Max won't quite work - the range would probably be fine but I hear it struggles to maintain 60 mph, and my commute has one section of busy uphill A-road which I'm sure would cause frustration both for me and any cars behind me... There are absolutely other options that would work great but, as you said, they're all a lot more money...

 

I'd be interested to hear too, but I've not seen much of a following for electric bikes. It's going to be very niche. Electric bikes struggle to make sense, the one key 'lightweight' advantage (because they aren't that aerodynamics, truth be known) is negated with heavy batteries.

A 11kW CBT naked would routinely struggle to hold 60 up a hill*, and this is 5kW only I think.

*(@andrew*debbie might confirm, not ridden one for 30 years, maybe the laws of physics have changed I do have a 125 but it is a 30bhp 2 stroke so doesn't really struggle much on hills ... at legal speeds. )

I was contemplating either @andrew*debbie 's choice of CB125R or maybe the considerably cheaper and dare I say good looking Benelli BN125 for my son, who has a CBT now. You can buy that and have enough money left over for 30,000 miles or so of what is, really, very low emission petrol powered travel.

 

A 11kW CBT naked would routinely struggle to hold 60 up a hill*, and this is 5kW only I think.

*(@andrew*debbie might confirm, not ridden one for 30 years, maybe the laws of physics have changed I do have a 125 but it is a 30bhp 2 stroke so doesn't really struggle much on hills ... at legal speeds. )

The CB125R can go 60 up a modest hill. Unlike many 125s, the 125R has the full leagal 11kW. I found it had more then enough power for the 60mph A roads around here.
I never felt power limited. I mean it was obvious the thing wasn't fast but neither were the cars around me.

There are CBT friendly two wheel EV than can mange 25+ winter miles at 60mph. I haven't ridden any of them.

The ones I'm thinking about come from Zero and BMW so they are not cheap. There might be others.

Riding a motorcycle or even a bicycle in winter should not be taken lightly. I've done it and it isn't fun. I get very cold despite all the gear. A small patch of black ice can lead to an unplanned dismount. In the end I sold the Honda because I couldn't make it work as a year 'round commuter.

The final straw was the closure of the Menai Bridge and the resulting traffic nightmare. Within a few days there were a couple of serious car vs. motorcycle accidents on the remaining bridge. I've mostly been using the train but have cycled several times when the weather isn't horrific. I also walk sometimes as it is only 4 miles each way. The bus takes over an hour. It is faster to walk!

 

What I’ve noticed with our Piaggio is it really struggles up hill. I was expecting with the torque of an electric motor it would be fine, but it’s not.

 

The first new Honda electric is a moped. < sigh >

EM1 e:
Due for release in summer 2023, the EM1 e: is the first Honda EV two wheeler for customers in Europe, and the first model to be unveiled following Honda’s announcement of its plans to introduce 10 or more electric motorcycle models globally by 2025. It is a significant first step towards meeting Honda’s stated aim of carbon neutrality for all its motorcycle line-up during the 2040s.
The ‘EM’ stands for Electric Moped , and the model is aimed squarely at a young demographic, looking for easy, fun urban transport. It is compact, flat-floored, with a smoothed styling that marks out its difference and unique identity within the Honda range. Perfect for short hops around town and for making journeys to work or college efficient, quiet and emission-free, the EM1 e: syncs neatly with modern expectations for urban mobility.
The EM1 e: is powered by the Honda Mobile Power Pack e:, which is built with a relentless focus on durability, reliability and quality. A single charge will offer a riding range of over 40km, and the Mobile Power Pack (MPP) is designed to withstand different temperatures, humidity levels, impacts and vibrations.. As its name suggest, the MPP is a swappable battery that can be easily removed from the EM1 e: for charging in the comfort of home.

New XL750 Transalp and EM1 e: electric vehicle lead Honda’s full 23YM line-up reveal at EICMA | Honda Global Corporate Website

Honda Global | New XL750 Transalp and EM1 e: electric vehicle lead Honda’s full 23YM line-up reveal at EICMA

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