[NibblyPig]

I imagine that's just the brake pads touching the wheel, on an ICE car, that's how cars brake but in an EV with regen braking, the brake pads aren't used until you come to a complete stop - regen braking uses a magnetic field to slow down the car, which generates power and it's why the electric gauge goes into the negative when you brake - it harnesses the power to feed back into the battery. Some buses use this too (called eddy current braking) except as they're not electric they vent the extra electricity into the heaters. If you're sitting at the back of the bus and the bus brakes quite hard then you might feel the heater behind you get really warm.

What it really means is that the brake pads don't touch the wheel unless you brake very sharply, or if you come to a complete stop, or if you brake while the battery is completely full. So it will only squeak once the regen braking isn't enough to stop you, which is when you come to a complete stop and it needs to hold the car still.

This means you don't have to replace the brake pads for much much longer \o/ and it's better for the environment.

 

[Liz101]

Thanks very much, yes sounds like that must be the reason, that's good to know, I've tried up to level 2 of the regen braking which feels great,.not had the 'courage' to try the more intense evels 3 and 4, does anyone know if the brake lights go on with regen braking even if you don't touch the acrual pedal, I have noticed cars quite close behind me when I take my foot off the accelerator on level 2 and just hoping the brake lights go on to when them if car slows down considerably without touching the brake pedal.

 

[nabrU]

@Liz101,
My wife's Mii squeaks as well exactly at the same circumstances. It must be normal thing then I reckon... Regen, drum brakes etc.

 

[Liz101]

Thanks very much, yes sounds like that must be the reason, that's good to know, I've tried up to level 2 of the regen braking which feels great,.not had the 'courage' to try the more intense evels 3 and 4, does anyone know if the brake lights go on with regen braking even if you don't touch the acrual pedal, I have noticed cars quite close behind me when I take my foot off the accelerator on level 2 and just hoping the brake lights go on to when them if car slows down considerably without touching the brake pedal.

@Liz101,
My wife's Mii squeaks as well exactly at the same circumstances. It must be normal thing then I reckon... Regen, drum brakes etc.

Thanks that's good to know. Also has any Mii owner had any luck getting an SOH battery test done. Before I collected my ev I asked the dealership about this and they said they didn't know how to do the test (I mentioned it can probably be done with OBDII scanner and app but they said they're only permitted to use their own equipment), hence they asked Seat Tech Services who also said they didn't know about the SOH test and so it was escalated to the factory. Six weeks later factory got back and they said that the battery has to be drained completely and a reading taken for the battery health and then charged slowly to full power and a second reading is taken and between the two readings you can get the SOH percentage. Seems very complicated especially as battery has to be drained before test can be done, how can than be done quickly without driving around a lot? The warranty states +70% battery SOH must be retained within 8 years or it will be replaced so assuming the SOH test must be able to be done to get a figure. My local Hevra ev specialist garage used their diagnostic equipment when I took it there to check but didn't seem to be able to get an SOH reading either. Very strange. I thought it would be quite an easy thing to check. when I test drove a used Renault Zoe they gave me a print out of the SOH reading straight away as it's important to know this figure when buying an ev and said they always check it during service. I just hope my Seat dealership will be able to do this when I have the service done as I'd like to know what state of health percentage my battery is at during the years of use. Anyone had any luck with SOH doability? Thanks

 

[Inskip75]

Ours is in for first service today so I"ll ask about the battery SOH and see what they say.

 

[nabrU]

Could you let us know what is the cost of this service?

PS. Two months since we're in touch with Mark Tolson from Seat CS and still no luck in fully activating Seat Connect app.

 

[Inskip75]

I'm going to have another attempt at the Connect app - will let you know cost when its done as wasn't 100% sure what was said on the phone

 

[Inskip75]

We had the first service carried out - 10k service but only 5k on car but 12 months old and on PCP.

Cost £114 inc VAT so not too bad plus 2 updates - dashboard electrics and battery management system.

I forgot to ask about SOH when picked car up but did request it at the drop off so I have emailed but no reply yet.

 

[Liz101]

Thanks for the update look forward to hearing about what they say

 

[NibblyPig]

The SEAT connect app says the first service is due 3 years after the car has been bought, so given I have mine on a 2 year lease I wouldn't expect to have to service it. Does that sound right? I am curious about the 10k service. AFAIK the leasing requirements are that you service the car in line with the manufacturer's guidance.

Incidentally my SEAT connect app I had to contact them to fix it but once I did, it worked. The app is pretty terrible though, and I never use it. I imagine if my car wasn't stored in a garage it might be useful to preheat/cool it but as it's indoors it doesn't reach any extreme temperatures. I suspect being an EV that most people would keep it in a garage plugged into a charging point, although that is just a guess.

 

[Inskip75]

This is interesting - we got an email from Seat so assumed they were right - I'm going to ask the question of the dealers.

 

[Liz101]

Yes thanks I'd also like to know as I lease mine and assumed it was every 12 months hence paying £12.40 pm for service and maintenance package. This below is what it says on Seat website and for the Mii but not sure if this is true for lease cars and it only says Seat 'recommends' this is done so unsure on what actually has to be done as a requirement opposed to just a suggestion
How often should I Service my SEAT?

• SEAT Service Intervals
  • 12 months or 10,000 miles a year, whichever comes first
  • 24 months or 20,000 miles a year, whichever comes first
  If you usually drive your SEAT around town, we would recommend having a service every 12 months or every 10,000 miles, whichever is first.
  If you usually drive out of town and have a high annual mileage, we recommend having your SEAT serviced every 2 years or 20,000 miles, whichever is first.
  Your SEAT service record book gives the service intervals for your specific model. However, if you have any questions about servicing your SEAT, please contact us, as we’re always ready to help.
• When should I service my SEAT?
  Explore the table below to find the full SEAT service schedule for each model.
  

  Model	Regular short journeys	Regular long journeys
  SEAT Mii service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Ibiza service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Arona service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Leon service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Leon Sportstourer service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Ateca service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Terraco service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first
  SEAT Alhambra service interval	Every 10,000 miles or 12 months - whichever comes first	Every 20,000 miles or 24 months - whichever comes first

• Regular servicing will maintain your SEAT’s reliability and safety. Additionally, keeping your SEAT’s service record up to date will help to ensure that your SEAT’s resale value is maintained, especially when a prospective purchaser sees that you have had your SEAT serviced at a recognised SEAT dealer by SEAT trained technicians, using all the correct specialist equipment and SEAT approved parts, which also have the benefit of a two-year warranty.

 

[Inskip75]

That's interesting and it should differentiate between Electric or ICE - ours is also leased and we want to keep servicing to a schedule and the timescales above look right to me and what I would expect, but I've emailed to ask. 3 years seems too long to me but I'll see what answer I receive (if any!!)

 

[NibblyPig]

Thanks keep us posted! The app says this so whoops looks like 2 years not 3, not sure if I have to service it in that case...

I am also 99% sure it says on the dashboard too, either when you turn the car on or if you open the menu and select it as an option.

 

[Elbee]

Slow charging on the SEAT Mii solved the right way. 32A charging! (hint… SEAT Connect app.)

Having been the owner of a new SEAT Mii electric for a whole month now I thought I would share my experience in getting the 32A charging working, (80% charge in 4hrs on a 7.4kwh charger). It annoyed me immensely when I got my new Mii and found out it would only charge at 16A (10 hours!) especially as I had just paid over £600 having a Wallbox installed. What surprised me more is hour little the SEAT dealers new about this issue.

Anyway, here is the process I went through to get fast charging -
I created an account with MY SEAT on the portal as instructed. I tried to activate the eSim in the car, which is necessary to get the SEAT CONNECT app working. I finally got the eSim activated and was told I had 14 days to activate the Connect services. However, now matter how I tried it, using the SEAT Portal or the Android app it just would not allow me to become the primary user. It would then block me from trying again for 24hrs. Eventually the 14 day period expired and I knew I had to re-activate the eSim. This was not possible though as the SEAT website was not available. It was at this point I emailed SEAT at the talkto@seatcars.co.uk address about the charging speed not the app, bear with me.
The chap there was very helpful. The first thing he suggested was to activate the eSIM and then the CONNECT app, (apparently full 32A charging would not be possible until the car was synced with the app.) When I explained that the SEAT eSim activation page was down he asked for my login details and account settings. Shortly after I sent this info to him he responded saying the eSim would take about 48hrs to be activated and I would be informed of this. He also performed some wizardry on the account too. Once the eSim activation email came through I logged in to the portal and my car was there all set up with the Connect Services. Later that day the android app just worked fine too.
All this is nice and all but the objective was 32A charging not the ability to heat the seats remotely. HOWEVER, in the CONNECT app there is a setting for maximum charge speed (click the cog in the top right corner). I pushed this to max and synced to the car.
I now have a SEAT mii electric that charged at 32A, 7.4kwh on my Wallbox!!

All is right in the world and I got what I was sold. I have created this account simply to share this information with anyone who has bought a Mii electric and is frustrated with only having 16A charging. Other than having to sort all this out the car is superb. Hope this helps someone out there.

 

[Elbee]

Slow charging on the SEAT Mii solved the right way. 32A charging! (hint… SEAT Connect app.)

Having been the owner of a new SEAT Mii electric for a whole month now I thought I would share my experience in getting the 32A charging working, (80% charge in 4hrs on a 7.4kwh charger). It annoyed me immensely when I got my new Mii and found out it would only charge at 16A (10 hours!) especially as I had just paid over £600 having a Wallbox installed. What surprised me more is hour little the SEAT dealers new about this issue.

Anyway, here is the process I went through to get fast charging -
I created an account with MY SEAT on the portal as instructed. I tried to activate the eSim in the car, which is necessary to get the SEAT CONNECT app working. I finally got the eSim activated and was told I had 14 days to activate the Connect services. However, now matter how I tried it, using the SEAT Portal or the Android app it just would not allow me to become the primary user. It would then block me from trying again for 24hrs. Eventually the 14 day period expired and I knew I had to re-activate the eSim. This was not possible though as the SEAT website was not available. It was at this point I emailed SEAT at the talkto@seatcars.co.uk address about the charging speed not the app, bear with me.
The chap there was very helpful. The first thing he suggested was to activate the eSIM and then the CONNECT app, (apparently full 32A charging would not be possible until the car was synced with the app.) When I explained that the SEAT eSim activation page was down he asked for my login details and account settings. Shortly after I sent this info to him he responded saying the eSim would take about 48hrs to be activated and I would be informed of this. He also performed some wizardry on the account too. Once the eSim activation email came through I logged in to the portal and my car was there all set up with the Connect Services. Later that day the android app just worked fine too.
All this is nice and all but the objective was 32A charging not the ability to heat the seats remotely. HOWEVER, in the CONNECT app there is a setting for maximum charge speed (click the cog in the top right corner). I pushed this to max and synced to the car.
I now have a SEAT mii electric that charged at 32A, 7.4kwh on my Wallbox!!

All is right in the world and I got what I was sold. I have created this account simply to share this information with anyone who has bought a Mii electric and is frustrated with only having 16A charging. Other than having to sort all this out the car is superb. Hope this helps someone out there.

Slow charging on the SEAT Mii solved the right way. 32A charging! (hint… SEAT Connect app.)

Having been the owner of a new SEAT Mii electric for a whole month now I thought I would share my experience in getting the 32A charging working, (80% charge in 4hrs on a 7.4kwh charger). It annoyed me immensely when I got my new Mii and found out it would only charge at 16A (10 hours!) especially as I had just paid over £600 having a Wallbox installed. What surprised me more is hour little the SEAT dealers new about this issue.

Anyway, here is the process I went through to get fast charging -
I created an account with MY SEAT on the portal as instructed. I tried to activate the eSim in the car, which is necessary to get the SEAT CONNECT app working. I finally got the eSim activated and was told I had 14 days to activate the Connect services. However, now matter how I tried it, using the SEAT Portal or the Android app it just would not allow me to become the primary user. It would then block me from trying again for 24hrs. Eventually the 14 day period expired and I knew I had to re-activate the eSim. This was not possible though as the SEAT website was not available. It was at this point I emailed SEAT at the talkto@seatcars.co.uk address about the charging speed not the app, bear with me.
The chap there was very helpful. The first thing he suggested was to activate the eSIM and then the CONNECT app, (apparently full 32A charging would not be possible until the car was synced with the app.) When I explained that the SEAT eSim activation page was down he asked for my login details and account settings. Shortly after I sent this info to him he responded saying the eSim would take about 48hrs to be activated and I would be informed of this. He also performed some wizardry on the account too. Once the eSim activation email came through I logged in to the portal and my car was there all set up with the Connect Services. Later that day the android app just worked fine too.
All this is nice and all but the objective was 32A charging not the ability to heat the seats remotely. HOWEVER, in the CONNECT app there is a setting for maximum charge speed (click the cog in the top right corner). I pushed this to max and synced to the car.
I now have a SEAT mii electric that charged at 32A, 7.4kwh on my Wallbox!!

All is right in the world and I got what I was sold. I have created this account simply to share this information with anyone who has bought a Mii electric and is frustrated with only having 16A charging. Other than having to sort all this out the car is superb. Hope this helps someone out there.

We have been on to Mike Tolson at SEAT UK and presented him with this evidence where we compared our BMW i3 performance with that of our 2021 Seat Mii:

We have now run our own tests:

Maximum rate observed while rapid (DC) charging is 25kW, using >50kW devices in 12-18 degree ambient temps. Range of networks (BP, Gridserve, Geniepoint, etc) and starting at various states of charge from 5-70%. Represents just over 60% of claimed 40kW rate. Complete incompatibly with Instavolt network.

By comparison, i3 consistently achieves 45kW (90% of claimed 50kW) at <80% SoC on same devices. No issues with Instavolt.

 

[Inskip75]

Interesting and although our Mii was one of the first to be sorted for the slow AC charging never really considered there was a DC problem. We rarely use DC but when we do its only Instavolt we use because it's always reliable and works fine on our Mii - but the most we've had is 28kW according to the app - but that's only 4 charges in 12 months.

 

[Elbee]

Like yours, mine is for round town but I am getting more adventurous because I want to go fully electric with both my cars in the future. Therefore I want to test the fast chargers. One post says: “ ..l if you get your app and find it is already at Max just move it down to something else, sync it, move it back to Max, sync it and it should be sorted.” I am going to give this a try. Meanwhile Marc Tolson is working on it for me! And I’m off on a 300-mile journey on Wednesday to test my nerves (and the speed of fast chargers!).

 

[Inskip75]

Very good and good luck with your journey and keep us informed the most we've done is 150 miles - but we knew there was a Booths with Instavolt available before we came back!!
Which app is this referring to?

 

[Andy]

Interesting and although our Mii was one of the first to be sorted for the slow AC charging never really considered there was a DC problem.

That's because there isn't a DC problem. Plenty of owners charging at the correct rates, just read/watch all of the reviews out there that show this, plus user accounts in this forum (and other forums). The evidence is there, the car charges faster than the 25kW that Elbee says his charges at. Maybe he has a problem with his own car though.

Charge curves attached below (from Fastned data).

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